You may be a bit confused by that title, but it’s a valid dilemma in the audio world. What is your goal when it comes to your system? There are two differing philosophies.
In a “You are there” set up, your goal is to create the illusion that you are at the concert or some other place where the performance is occurring.
In a “They are here” set up, you want it to sound like the performance is happening in your listening room. The musicians have magically appeared in front of you and are singing right to you.
Or do you strive for a bit of both? Does it depend on the recording more than the system? It takes some imagination on the listener’s part, so can you not create either illusion in your mind?
Check out what our users had to say on the Forum below.
Buff: I prefer you are there. Recording has a huge affect on this, as do room acoustics. Of course it takes a certain level of quality in speaker and associated equipment to get this, but if it isn’t on the CD/record/etc, it is not going to come out of your speakers.
Mofimadness: I prefer “they are here.” Since I have never been to most concert halls, recording studios, etc., I don’t know how they are supposed to sound. I do know my own sound room and acoustic space and how it performs.
Ballan: I think this has more to do with the recording methods and process, and because of that, I prefer to allow the artist and engineer to make that decision. I have a hard enough time trying to decide between cake or brownies for dessert 🙂
Cbw723: Personally, I find the “you are there” sensation a bit disorienting. I know where I am when I’m listening, and it’s not in a jazz club, concert hall, or stadium. So when I hear the cues that suggest those places, I find them distracting and they distance me from the music. Maybe that’s why I prefer studio-recorded material. It sounds like the music is there with me for my personal enjoyment.
In my case, the acoustic treatment is easy: just make the room a bit on the acoustically dead side. For the “you are there” experience, I’d think you’d want to make your room’s acoustics a bit like the venue of interest (without getting carried away). A jazz venue is small and a bit bright, a concert hall is cavernous, a stadium is well, an acoustic nightmare. So I think you could probably tailor your room in one way or another to maximize a particular kind of venue, but that might have consequences for other types of recordings and venues.
Rtn1: I have not had time to read through the posts. I have achieve the ‘you are there’ experience for the majority of my recordings. This is achieved by lowering the ‘noise’ and removing electronic artifacts. I put noise in quotes because there is also noise and distortion you cannot hear. I believe it also takes a highly resolving source (i.e. DAC). I do not think the recording is a limitation. The spatial cues are there, they are masked by most equipment.
Jylee: To me, most studio recordings sound like “there are here,” and most live recordings sound like “you are there.” It’s probably caused by the extra cues for space and ambiance I’m not familiar with. I don’t think it has to do much with the quality of the equipments.
Wolf_garcia: If you have an accurate system working properly everything you hear sounds a little, or a lot, dissimilar relative to soundstaging. Acoustic pianos ALL sound different, engineers can make drummers sound properly in a nice area or 67 feet wide (did he have his girlfriend play that tom fill on queue from a restroom stall?), orchestras might as well be on different planets, etc. I try not to care too much and enjoy the fidelity and the musical ideas with some people right in front of me, surrounding me, stuck to the walls, or in a mono mix piled on top of each other…it can all be good, but it’s all different.
Tom6897: Your system is there to provide suspension of belief and fool the senses. I want my system to be able to portray both depending upon the material I am enjoying at any given time. Yes, one system can do both, if properly setup and your room is capable of allowing that suspension of belief to occur.
Do you feel it is possible to have both a “You are there” and “They are here” sound on the same system? Do you prefer one or the other? Share your thoughts in the comments below!